Amanda
– co-conspirer, zinester and film-maker came over recently
with a head full of scooter stories.
We were trying
to remember who played the first gig back in late august 1998 at emu
tek café. Cult lena we were sure of, Amanda reckoned
middle aged women with a gripe did but I was vague on it.
{I’d like to forget about that one}.
Amanda -
“you were playing guitar and singing”
Agent Black
- “alledgedly, we were shock’n! what were we thinking?”
(me and ange with the same haircut, looking like teenage paige bois –
well we had JUST discovered ‘marie louise’)
Amanda -
“Well you did it cuz you could”
And
I guess yeah that’s what scooters about. You do it cuz you can.
Amanda -
I wanna tell the story right from my beginnings of how when I was around
in the 80’s, during my formative years living in Darlinghurst with
a bunch of post-punky anarchists, vaguely eco-feminists. Cuz there was
a lot of anti-nuclear disarmament stuff going on. There was a tiny weeny
punky girl scene going on, mostly birtha mertha and disband, there probably
would have been about 3 girl punk bands and there was a group of ghetto
girl bands that were kinda reggae-ish like ‘the stray dags’.
I’d
heard of bands from England like the slits and the raincoats,
x-ray spex, nina hagen and that kind of shaped me in
a way, that music can provide the spirit and the ideas and images that
unite behind social movements and sub-cultures. Anyway, I used to go and
see a lot of live music in my 20’s and earlier, this was around
the time pubs and bands and rock was at its prime. And then I just got
out of the habit..
I started
working on this film script which is set in Darlinghurst, about 2 sisters
in a punk band and I thought I better go and see some live music. I went
and saw a bit, Nitocris…
But there wasn’t much around, there was grunge, but I mainly knew
about o/s grunge. I found out about ‘team dresch’
after reading about them in a magazine. They were all dykes and I was
looking for music to play on gay and lesbian radio. I went to waterfront
records and found team dresch and took it home and I used to
look at the zines and stuff and that’s how I found out about riot
grrl and then I read a notice about a group of young women called ‘snatch’.
It was an Australian Contemporary Women in Music initiative and these
young women that had got involved, facilitated by Vicky Gordon. They were
meeting and wanted women to join to put out this zine and put on gigs.
So I went along (although I don’t know what possessed me to go)
but I went along and I met you (patz) and angela and for some reason we
got along (prob cuz me and you were dykes) and we continued to have this
friendship and you both knew so much more about riot grrl music so we
used to spend nights getting drunk at the oxford talking about music and
getting so excited. Talking about the latest thing we’d found out
or heard and gossip and who was supposed to be a dyke and who they were
doing…..
AB didn’t
we fabricate most of it?..
Amanda -
Well we would have made it up like they should have. ‘snatch’
put out a coupla zines, it didn’t last that long. We knew about
Kylie Purr and had been along to the Purr gigs.
I remember the Grot Grrl gig and I don’t think you and
I knew each other at the time. GG was one of the first riot grrl zines
put out by flea and sam difference from Melbourne. They had a benefit
gig at the journalist club, purr played + evol +
fleas band at the time sulk.
Me and you got the idea of putting on gigs, helping or providing opportunities
for women in music and then Meredith and some friends opened up emu
tek café, we were hanging out there one day and decided to
start something. Meredith
provided the name and the first flier.
AB –
remember mero was right into winter steel so all the fliers had
her on em.
Amanda -
Yeah, this character, an animated barbie doll kinda thing from liquid
tv which was on at the time. We were at emu for just over a year. We really
believed in the idea so we weren’t put off by the fact that not
a lot of people turned up, sometimes we were just playing to walk-ins
and polymorph staff.
I used to dj, dj scuttlebutt and you were dj trotski
– that was a lot of fun. I like playing the old skool stuff. One
of the pivotal moments was when ‘bracode’ just lobbed
up, cuz they’d read about us in lotl and they brought their instruments
and played. That was pretty exciting, like those things are mythical,
it was really exciting. And from then members of bracode became involved
in the collective.
More people got involved in the collective; m’lis has made a huge
contribution especially with her technical skills. Then we had a meeting
and discussed going to a different venue. I’m very fond of the
imperial and when we had our first gig there, we were just so knocked
out cuz so many people turned up. Bracode were on the bill.
Over the
years I’ve just been surprised about how many different acts we’ve
had on, how many women that are around playing. There are tonnes. Scooter
provides avenues, it gives women who haven’t played anywhere at
all except maybe their lounge rooms the opportunity to do a first gig
and get the experiences and sets up networks, allows people to get together
for various activities and women can think about putting their writing
in a zine, their own or contribute to another zine. And put your artwork
up. We have the weekly radio show on skidrow and have put out
cds. That was really exciting having Tribe 8 and Glitter
Mini 9 and The Third Sex on the first cd.
Scooter provides
a space for women to be vulnerable in, to express themselves without getting
lots of criticism.
Oh yeah,
that was another thing, one of the things me and patz did before we started
scooter is that we went and saw ‘all over me’ and
the minute I heard babes in toyland playing at the beginning I thought
this is gonna be so great and I love the soundtrack and there’s
a scene in a club with leisha hailey playing in a band, ‘helium’
and the club does exist, it’s sorta like a doco, and we thought
we want something like that. It gave us a visual of what scooter would
look like cuz we’d never been to a club like that. With girls being
a part of that kind of music. We were so excited.
We’ve done what we set out to accomplish and we’ve done a
lot more and we’ve been successful more than our wildest dreams.
If it’s a success its obviously meeting a need and what we’re
doing is relevant to some women.
I’d like to think that scooter is a comfortable space and it’s
a reasonably friendly crowd. If I turned up cold I’d think it was
a sanctuary really. I just love the idea of girls getting up on stage
and making a lot of noise. I think it’s exhilarating, people expressing
their anger, ideas about stuff, frustrations, angst about being a girl,
politics and for me it’s what meditational music is supposed to
do for you. I just come out feeling calm..
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Meredith
has been a driving force of the dyke/feminist/activist community for years
- she's
just far too modest to ever mention it. She was one of the originators
and facilitators of scooter, and she and her partner – domino, currently
collaborate to produce dyke pornfest, SLIT. If only she'd ignore
her modesty long enough to do a smutty spread in the mag ...
AB: You’re
finalising the latest issue of the non-profit dyke porn mag ‘Slit’
which you and Domino do the design and layout, contribute a lot of the
content and are the facilitators/distributors. It was interesting reading
the stories from Jade Snow Kemety in issue 3 of Slit where she
talks about Wicked Women and how easy it was say 10yrs ago to
orchestrate events, create art and performances and survive on the dole!
MW: Shit
It often feels like it, I spent 6 years on the dole studying and being
a full time activist, doing community tele and dyke funraising gigs…Yeah
it seemed a bit easier. You had access to cheap venues, time to hunt them,
you could actually rent warehouses…We never did club gigs, it was
always in friend’s warehouses. Though there are still spaces like
that…the chocolate factory, space 3. But it seems harder to do stuff
in spaces that are different, ha! or maybe I’m just getting too
old to deal with the cops and the huge lug ins. We were very spoilt we
had a few warehouses that were easy..
The Buckland St warehouse in Chippendale was my fave. It ran for 3 years,
Jade and M’lis from Scoot set it up. That was home to a huge amount
of queer culture... Dyke pirate/Up yours put on a pile of chixcentric
gigs - a coupla Xdressors ball’s, women’s warehouse parties,
band days, film nights. WW had Ms Wicked finals, Leather
pride and Word of Mouth Leso arts collective put on a copla art exhibitions
and performance nights there. Gawwwd we even did the Queer TV
test transmissions there which I loved. We turned the WW office into the
control room. It was crazy, building it over a week, installing micro
wave links on the roof (we were so lucky we borrowed everything, a few
ace engineers at commercial stations). Buckland St had fab line of sight
to the UTS tower where the TX was. It was only a weekend broadcast as
part of the Mardi Gras festival but it was huge We had a pile of live
stuff and hrs and hrs of great edited homo stories huge fantastic crew…opps
I could go on for hrs about community tele, a wee bit off track. I often
daydream about being on the dole and having more time for Slit but I couldn’t
handle the hassle you get now though I’m looking forward to the
pension.
AB: Slit
is only one project your involved/have been involved with, you were there
at the beginning of Scooter, in fact you came up with the name
MW: Yeah,
it was you, Amanda and me the 1st copla gigs. I was part of da collective
that set up emu (electro mutoids unite) a space we developed
to try and merge culture, tekky nerds and vegan food with a fat queer
flavour. Scoot started here. It kinda worked but it was a bit of a challenge
in a internet café ha…It was a good beginning but it meant
we had some eclectic gigs - from electro/trash one week to rap, then a
punk band the next to politkco performance artists to zine launches…and
a lot more vid mixs, sometimes just whole cuts. I think M'lis cut up her
whole USA tour of chick/queercore and showed it for one gig. Often we
didn’t have bands, it was more anything goes. It is hard to believe
now but we just couldn’t find them. We had a few ambitious attempts
at live band streaming/net chats with bands in England and zinemakers
and of course the fab dj’s Trotsky and Skuttlebutt
spun great tunes every gig.. But Scoot totally went off after Bracode
crashed from the Gong one gig… and your total passion for it constantly
inspired ..I think we were at Emu about 8 months or soo and then
you talked the Imperial into having Scoot…and then huge
ness, bands come from everywhere and this great sense of a community slowly
built up.
Why did Scoot
start up? I spose at the time there was a gaping hole in the scene, no
live music. When I was a baby dyke you couldn’t go out with out
seeing a women’s band and then for a few years there was none. I’ve
always been like we have to build our scene our own culture…or we
won’t have a community. The women’s music scene had disappeared
for a bit, ace musios bif tek were around but nothing on the punk genre
really, or that I knew about, you knew more bands…When I was a baby
dyke we had a stack of bands and non stop girl music courses, women’s
day at skidrow. Every leso gig had a band - Stray Dags, Wimmin
and Boys, Party girls, Birth of Mirtha (Bumby who now runs King Vic
was in this cult band for ages) I was involved in community media so I
was always part of crews putting on bands as fundraisers for cat and queer
tele mainly. We often had a few bands to hassle but when we started Emu
we only knew of Cult Lena (Alza and Liz from the Scoot coll)
and you and Amanda djed the whole thing.
And why the
name?…Scooter stuck I went through my dairy back then to check out
the other names I had down they are a kak - Kittyfingers, Clitsticks,
Broads electro…But Scooter seemed perfect at the time, had that
riot y free feel to it. I actually nabbed it out of an issue of Giant
Robot, they have a great classified section with bands and zines I’d
never heard of. So Scooter, it just stuck. We whipped up a few leaflets
of my fave puppet Annimation at the time “Winter steel”
on her Harley (off Liquid tv) and scooter was born.
AB: Facilitated
by a women only collective has allowed Scooter to maintain control over
its identity and create a comfortable framework to grow, form alliances
and contribute as part of a community. It does not exclude men, but ensures
that the majority of the performers /artists/zinesters and techo’s
are women. These self-defining and strategic essentialist politics can
introduce rigidity and ghettoising, something which Scooter has been accused
of..
MW: Aghh
fucken rubbish what like the revolution has happened? Yeah I’ve
heard this rot before I’m all for the ghetto, some of the most exciting
creative shit is born outta ghettos. Ghettos can mutate and that’s
something that Scooter does. There are a zillion places that are accessible
to straight queers, there is nothing stopping them setting up a group
that will reflect their interests. In the 1st year of Gurlesque we had
this “Oh your’ve put back the queer movement 10 years”
cause of the women only policy and with Slit “It will stagnant if
we don’t include men…” I don’t think Scooter is
about essentialist politics. The women focused approach of Scooter is
not just about biological essentialism, but about a recognition that gender
is not just biology but brings with it social, economic and cultural bagage.
Just as equal pay for equal work is a useful litmus test for some kind
of economic equality, the existence of women’s spaces is fucken
healthy and a great indication of resistance to the oppresiveness of patriachy.
Chick rock. Chicks rock.
AB: Are these
feminist fundamentals still relevant to Scooter today?
MW: Fuck
yeahhh until patriachy and capitalism have been crushed.
And another thing about Scoot. As well as fostering chix who play music,
it’s also offered a home to kids/groupies who love then and a pile
of artists, you have video makers and photographers and visual artists
in the collective, so its makes a neat home to pile of alt artists and
activists. And it doesn’t rely on money. the 4 bucks entrance fee
is sooo worth it.
AB: ‘Slit’
gigs seem to be one of the few events in Sydney that attract a diverse
crowd of women. With yourself involved in so many different fragments
of the lezzo/queer community, do you feel that there is generally a lack
of x-over within the different scenes??
MW: Yeah
that is true but I think its changing. I think everyone is suffering at
the moment. No one has any cash so are pretty selective about what they
go out to I have no idea where everyone has gone but pulling more than
200 kids is hard. I think dyke events still have a stigma of not being
professional enuf if blokes aren’t involved it’s a bit daggy.
You have to put on soo much more to please lesos…there is still
a bit of snobbery and misogony I reakon . But Slit has been soo
supported by artists from diff scenes which is ace and we are totally
indebted.
AB: You rarely
let it be known that you’re one of the ideas people/facilitators
behind such concepts as scooter, sheila autonomista, slit, gurlesque,
emu tek café. Many women, yourself included within an anarcho-feminist
community seem to be uncomfortable with accepting recognition. Why so??
MW: Ha you
can answer this one too…I think you nailed it I’m just one
of the ideas people and I’m good at getting things going but it’s
always a crew, so it’s always a group jobbie with the accepting
recognition. Maybe it’s a legacy from involvement in collective
politics where we challenged ourselves about leadership dogmas, but the
rest of the world is obsessed with the leader and they find it hard to
give the same power to all who have worked and built up a project. I’m
usually one of those daggy pottering background types…this interview
is seriously challenging my comfort zone. I reckon people always need
to think about how power develops within collectives, and get better at
both giving and recieving recognition.
AB: Looking
at ‘Slit’ it has allowed you to publish some radical
artistic, ideas on dyke sexuality..
MW: I think
Slit is really exciting. It’s trying to showcase/merge
sex culture art porn and politics which is kinda a feat in itself. And
remove the impetus of money which is kinda a contradiction as it costs
a packet to produce. But I think it’s really important for our sexuality
to have a chance to be separate from the pink dollar commodification of
sexuality, we are not a vodka advertisement. Initially we started it for
a bit of titillation and to cover the freaky anarchy porny side of dyke
culture that gets such minority support from the leso media, who are sooo
busy doing advertorial. We have a radikal agenda and we are interested
in the big issues desire, pleasure, non productive sex ha! (and all da
other stuff). And taking a collaborative approach with artists and writers,
and documenting our own subcultures.
AB: Can you
talk about activist inspirations ?
MW: When
I was 20 I went on a work solidarity brigade to Nicaragua that was prob
the big epiphany for me, it blew my mind. I was their 6 months I spose
a lot of kids go to Mexico now and get inspired by Zapatista activists.
For my genny lotsa lefties went to Nica, Cuba or the Phillipines on brigades
to get educated. So for me it was meeting many Sandanista revolutionaries
that rocked my world. I was there during the contra (American sponsored
mercenary army that fought the Sandanistas for 12 years) kid napping of
a German brigade killing two. So an internationalist brigade was got together
to go down and finish the housing project they were working on. I was
the Aussie on it, there were activists from everywhere in the world FMLN,
IRA. Basque activists, Farc, mexican, german, scottish, vietnamese, chilean.
Every night people would talk about things they were involved on in h/er
own countries. It was awsome.
I got totally
passionate about community media and got to see all these great micro
stations that were community run, sooo ispiring. So that was it for me.
I thought if we own and run our own media we will overthrow capital. Hmmm
I wish it was soo easy. When I got home I lived community tele for years
helping to set up the test transmissions in Sydney (Metro/Cat/Queer TV)
over 6 years. This led to the last license (channel 6) being given to
the community, now Channel 31. One kwerl thing was I had just finished
my trade at tech. It was a kak, we would have to get the test tx license
from DOTAC in Canberra and they were so excited we were the 1st girls
ever to hold a tele license in Australia (myself and Louise Stenhouse
). Even though it was a tiny 2 week test license each time, we were still
chuffed.
For more
info about SLIT or to subscribe, submit, advertise checkout their site
– www.slit.cat.org.au
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Melissa
is a hugely diversely talented woman especially in a techy capacity -
without her dedication over the years scooter would have been permanently
unplugged! She has recently been passing her skills on to up-and-coming
techies in the mixing booth at scooter gigs. She is also half of the hard
work and vision that is scootstar records.
You’ve
been an integral co-conspirator in scooter over the years. In all areas
– facilitation, teckky, web design/maintenance, fliers, lugging
etc. how do you feel scooter has progressed (or regressed) since its first
inception as a feminist space in Sydney.
Scoot’s
progressed - it’s bigger, more popular and established, and has
attracted the interest of more & more women in sydney, australia,
and overseas. There are more women involved in the scooter collective.
Scoot’s got a lot more areas of production happening than just gigs
– putting out cds & zines, a radio show, merchandising, organiing
tours, video production, artwork, websites, a record company, etc (tho
realising a lot of these projects is still often reliant upon the energy
of the same 2 or 3 core people). Scooter has recognition now as an exciting
and ongoing piece of alternative or underground women’s culture
in sydney. It’s helped inspire women musos and bands. It’s
also progressed just in terms of the skills lots of scooter women have
learned/acquired.
Do you still get all excited seeing a crowd of women jumping to a girl
punk band?
Yeah –
scoot’s damn good when the bands & crowd are goin off! &
u get a great view of it all from the mixing booth – leaves ya with
this huge grin that feels like it’ll never fade…
You also
design/maintain the scooter site and have just spent the last 4 months
training a few women tekko’s to do sound at scooter, hows did you
come about with tekky skills??
Just by having
an interest in this side of things. I was always into tools & building
stuff when I was a kid – even tho I wasn’t that good at it
– like the wonky go-cart I built whose axles totally bent at right
angles the first time I got on it & tried to fang down the farm hills;
and the really-well-designed yet sadly poorly constructed wooden raft
which kinda sank in our dam a few minutes after setting sail – but
I was pretty proud of both of these espec after me dad quietly fixed them
up for me later.
And I had fun mucking around with a soldering iron & my stereo speakers
– anyone can do this sort of stuff so it makes u realise that electronics
can be pretty basic stuff.
Came to sydney
and joined Radio Skid Row – their tech was leaving at the time &
I’d been hanging around him a bit so he trained me up to take over
after he left – this was the coolest experience cos I was way outta
my depth keeping a radio station on air – and just had to learn
heaps every way possible & wing it a lot.
Was involved
with a dyke project ‘word of mouth’ – like everything
else I was involved in they had no money so when it came time to put on
performances we couldn’t pay sound & lighting people so I did
it – studied other rigs & asked the hire places & others
lotsa qns to pull it off … fumbled thru it somehow – stressy
but fun.
Can’t
remember how I got into website stuff – maybe thru cat@lyst –
the community Internet/activist group www.cat.org.au – they host
scooter – yay to them!!! was probably cos website making is so easy
pretty much anyone can do it.
How important
is it for women to not be afraid of educating themselves and taking on
tekky roles.
As important
as it is fer women not to be afraid of anything they want to do. And tech
is an area that could really do with more women helping out – like
most behind the scenes tasks I guess. It’s heaps of fun & a
total ego boost to be able to do such stuff. All you really need is an
interest in this side of things – then u just find ways to learn
– the best way being by asking, watching, and most importantly helping
others who already have skills. Books are great too & there’s
lots of info on the Internet. TAFE & other courses are useful/practical.
But yeah, working with someone who already knows wot they’re doing
is the best – as long as u can get them to let u actually do some
hands on stuff. And there’s so many women who are actually quietly
doing techy stuff which shd really inspire others – like mero &
patz who are central controllers at big television stations; & safari,
sarah, carina, etc who have amazing computer & internet programming
skills; plus women we know who are lighting & sound techs, engineers,
etc – usually they’re all really happy to talk about it &
show others how to do stuff. Not many people know that women (janene,
mero, cat, & me) mainly built the current radio skid row studios at
addison rd – directing the building & wiring. And women like
mero, louise s, carmin, carmen, dahlia, jane, patz, carina, kim etc have
been integral in the techy side of the development of community TV –
such as Metro TV test b’casts, CAT TV, and gay & leso TV like
Xit-Way-Out.
It’s not a matter of assuming you can just do anything – it’s
more like at least trying to do something to see if you can do it –
and remembering that the first time we do something new we’re probably
gonna be crap at it, and maybe even the second time, but it quickly –
like exponentially quickly- gets easier & better.
You mentioned once that ‘Scooter’ is a concept. How do you
view scooter in the future. Do you think it will and should continue in
the way it does? Is it still relevant?
Fer sure
scooter is still really relevant and shd continue. But …….
In some ways it’s become a bit narrow – youth & band orientated
and not diverse enough. It’s got a bit insular & needs to look
outwards more and take a few risks. There are other groups doing inspiring
stuff – like the Club Arak crew & Slit crew, etc – which
shd also inspire scooter.
There were
3 women who started scooter – amanda, mero & patz – 2
of them were in their 30s. Now there’s a heavy focus on the ‘younguns’
which is cool but can be limiting in a way. When it was formed there were
plans to include lots of crossover – multimedia, performance, diverse
creative women, techo & diy stuff, plus the punk girl bands of course.
This happened a bit at emu but hasn’t been followed thru so much
– perhaps it still will or maybe there’s a need fer smthg
else to start along side of scooter – or maybe I shd just stop whining
about it & help create it – anyone else???
What’s
been your scooter highlight?
Hmmm, tricky
cos my brain’s never been much good at the whole memory-lane thing
– um, dredging, dredging, oooh yeah – the lansdowne gig at
the first sheila fest last year where bracode got everyone on the stage
near the end; and the first bracode gig at emu – where the band
& the scooter crew negotiated the ‘we’ve come all the
way from w’gong - can we play’ business sitting outside the
caf on the pavement – a real taste of rock & roll superstardom
in the making; ticking along now – and the first ‘middle aged
women with a gripe’ show – putting the fun & silliness
mixed with talent back into showbiz. And a lot of bands’ first gigs
– they always seem to have the most raw excitement – like
penis envy’s first show, & bitch craft & bitch slap, etc
etc. Romaine’s, Deep in Sound’s and Sista She performances
were pretty special too.
You’ve
been involved with Pirate radio – Sick FM/reclaim the streets. Tell
us a bit about how you went about choosing a tx site/setting up/content
etc?
I’ve
had a tricky experience with pirate radio – building the transmitter
proved to be a lot easier than doing the broadcasts. Sites are difficult
– need height which in a crowded city like sydney is not very available
or accessible - wd end up using people’s flats, cafes, roofs, empty
gutted buildings that are now yuppie apartment blocks. Out on the street
up telegraph poles fer ‘reclaim the streets’. Had to do a
lot of shimmying up poles or hanging out top story windows to rig antennas.
Sick FM was with Naomi who was amazing at rigging, getting venues, content,
djs, etc… was short lived but fun.
The TX is now with various community activist groups that have done pirate
radio b’casts at baxter detention facility, newcastle electrofringe,
and around the traps in sydney – listen out fer it.
Tell us about your involvement in the Buckland St womens Warehouse.. how
was it setup/organised/was it collectively run? What was some of the gigs/highlights/stories
from those days?
Woooh yer
really taking me down the lane – not sure this is the trip fer me
but seeing as you’ve asked here goes … dunno wot other people’s
experiences are but if they’re like mine then big exciting projects
come at some personal cost … The Buckland St warehouse was the idea
of a few of the wicked women crew, in particular jade, jasper & anando
& mero in the beginning of the 1990s. We found this great space on
buckland st, chippendale – close to broadway – with huge ceilings,
a mezzanine, pillars, huge windows, and heaps of room to make a big venue
– it was a really fantastic and even beautiful space. So we did
the commercial lease thing and got other women to live there (unlawfully
but we never got busted). me & jade had to do a lot of building –
create rooms, put in plumbing, kitchen, bathroom, wiring etc. We were
all on the dole at the time so had no money. Jade & me wd go out in
jasper’s big old holden at night and scavenge materials from commercial
sites - we’d get spotted and threatened and the cops wd be called
but somehow we scraped thru it all ok. Jade’s an artist and an incredible
builder, handy person, craftsperson. I was kinda her offsider in building
& she taught me a lot. It was a hard slog fer both of us cos there
was A LOT to do but we did it & there were a lot of laughs & adventures
(& of course dramas).
Used the
space as a venue for lots of exciting dyke/queer/etc performances –
like wicked women shows, and dyke pirate events, leather pride shows,
etc. Performers wd also use the space to rehearse – wd often come
home & there’d be half clad trapeze artists swinging over the
dinner table (well almost).
Was a great
space but difficult to maintain cos of the expense. We tried to run it
collectively. Lasted several years and during this time were a few tricky
personal dramas cos a lot of us were very close friends and things could
get intense. So some of us would fall out fer a time which was really
sad at the time and kinda tainted the whole incredible/wonderful/exciting
side of the whole project. But was a pretty magical experience which meant
a lot to me & others – wd be so fuckn fantastic if there was
a dyke/women run venue/space like that again in sydney and we didn’t
have to rely on commercial pubs & clubs so much.
You’re
an expert in refugee law and you’ve been following a case involving
two gay boys seeking refugee status which is being taken to the high court..
tell us abit about this case and the developments and the importance as
a precedence in the courts it and how it will effect sexual minority refugees
Ya mean the
homosexual men who are seeking asylum here cos of fear of persecution
in their country. I work as a refugee lawyer in a community legal centre.
We all know that asylum seekers are treated very badly in Australia –
yet homosexual asylum seekers seem to have been singled out fer some extra-special
treatment or discrimination.
The law’s
been interpreted here to be that if a homosexual will be safe in his/her
country if s/he can hide, deny, or suppress his/her sexuality then they
are not entitled to refugee status in Australia and must return to their
country. This is the case for homosexuals in countries where homosexuality
is illegal and homosexuals can be imprisoned or killed for being gay or
lesbian. Australian Decision-makers (the Department of Immigration &
the Refugee Review Tribunal) are denying homosexuals refugee status here
on the basis they can return to their country and ‘be discrete’
about their sexuality – ie hide, suppress, or deny it or simply
pretend to be heterosexual and even marry.
This sort of reasoning is not applied to other asylum seekers. People
with particular religions or political beliefs are not being denied refugee
status here because they should hide or suppress their religion or politics.
Only homosexual asylum seekers are being treated like this. Anyway,
one of these Decisions is being challenged in the High Court on the basis
that the reasoning being applied to homosexual asylum seekers –
the requirement to be discrete – is unlawful. The case was heard
in the High Court a couple of months ago and there should be a judgment
soon. I went to the High Court Hearing and from the way the High Court
judges approached things its looks like they will make a good judgment
and rule that this ‘discretion reasoning’ is unlawful. The
judges were pretty clear in their dislike of this sort of reasoning. So
the law should get better but still you have to wonder how/why this reasoning
developed in the first place and it seems readily attributable to an unacknowledged
discriminatory approach or even homophobia in many refugee decision-makers
which needs to be addressed along with their other prejudices.
Who/what
inspires you as an activist.. Influential experiences?
‘Who’
- this requires a list (in some or no particular order) … patz,
mero, nicole, louise, amanda, jade, safari, sarah, gemma, rosie x, rachel,
romaine, kim bowers, alison, annie, bracode girls, jasper, my sister fiona,
performance artists such as azaria, sex, glitta, etc. (ummm, will have
forgotten others who are also really important…. )
These women
inspire me in their attitude, creativity, commitment and the fun and excitement
they bring to being active and activist. A lot of them have trained themselves
and have amazing design and performance skills and innovative ideas. They’re
all kinda unique and often make me feel down-right privileged to be part
of these social / cultural / activist scenes.
Women who
are into creating things for themselves and others – who have enough
ego to want to be part of something exciting and to be proud of it but
not so much that they’re just in it for their own vanity or self-promotion.
Whats’
yr theory on the new york power loss. One theory is aliens working with
the US government? Hackers maybe?
Aaaagh, cosmic
retribution maybe – to show the usa (& unfortunately canada
had to share in the lesson just to get another country real cranky) something
of what it’s like in iraq now after the usa etc presence there has
helped - directly & indirectly - to largely destroy the electricity
distro there. Dunno really – bit outta touch with the news –
wot blackout???? |